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Have you checked the latest HERESCOPE?

Posted October 3, 2014

...and how it Operates

Part 3: The Culture Which Gave Rise to Mark Driscoll

Read Part 1: "We Are Not ABONDONED"

Read Part 2: "Under the Bus" and "Off the Map" - The Out-of-Control Bus That Runs Over Sheep



"You either get on the bus or you get run over by the bus.
Those are the options; but the bus ain’t gonna stop."

-Mark Driscoll[1]


"To decide where to drive the bus before you have the right people on the bus,
and the wrong people off the bus,
is absolutely the wrong approach."

"...if you have the wrong people on the bus, nothing else matters.
You may be headed in the right direction,
but you still won’t achieve greatness.
Great vision with mediocre people still produces mediocre results."

- Jim Collins[2]


Every day you'll see the dust (Too much, the Magic Bus)
As I drive my baby in my Magic Bus (Too much, the Magic Bus)

- "Magic Bus," The Who 


Whoever heard of a transit authority that kicks people off its buses? How can one run a business this way? Leave it to Jim Collins, the management guru who trained several generations of MegaChurch, New Calvinist and Emergent leaders, to come up with such a radical idea.

Collins taught evangelical leaders his brand of "tossing people off the bus," including his own unique methodology. He advised bus drivers (i.e., church leaders) that before going in a certain direction they first needed to purge their bus of the "wrong people." Yep! That's right! Toss out the unruly "wrong people" that don't fit on the bus. Keep the "right people" on the bus and then get going on your mission to fulfill your vision. The following statement by Collins is alarmingly blunt:

You are a bus driver. The bus, your company, is at a standstill, and it’s your job to get it going. You have to decide where you're going, how you're going to get there, and who's going with you.

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A Conference for the Young...
...and the Young at Heart


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Posted September 18, 2014

The Out-of-Control Bus That Runs Over Sheep

Part 2: The Culture Which Gave Rise to Mark Driscoll

Read Part 1: "We Are Not ABONDONED"


Leadership Network's NEXT, Dec. 1997

Leadership Network's culture has trained several generations of megachurch leaders and spawned the Emergent/Emerging and New Calvinist evangelical "streams" (among others). Precisely WHAT was taught to these leaders that gave them the idea that it is okay for their sheep to "get run over by the bus"?"


Before proceeding it is necessary to establish that Leadership Network sees itself as a "change agent" organization, and a premier "network of networks." It believes it possesses replicating "DNA" that can be inserted into existing churches and faith-based organizations across the country. As a training outfit, Leadership Network reproduces its DNA downline throughout its multiplying interconnected networks. From the beginning, the DNA of Leadership Network was intended to become the DNA of the evangelical world.

In December 1997, Leadership Network's Megachurch bus shifted into a new gear and set the path towards "accelerating the emergence of the 21st century church." They stated that their "new paradigm" would not be "centered in theology" but rather "focused on structure" and organization." At the right is the full context of the opening quote at the top of this post. In this particular issue of NEXT, Leadership Network announced preliminary organizational structural changes that laid the groundwork for the next few years of paradigm-shifting. This would set the stage for the year 2000, and soon afterwards Emergent/Emerging would be launched.

From its inception the foundation of this "emergence" was fundamentally flawed. There was an inherent defect in the DNA. It did not originate from the Scriptures. It was a foreign organism, not unlike a virus. The full-blown disease is now in evidence at Mars Hill in Seattle. People are feeling the terrible symptoms, but few know its origins. And some may not want to know it.

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Latest Newsletter!

September/October 2014

In this newsletter:


By Jewel Grewe


By Pastor Anton Bosch


By Sarah H. Leslie

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New Book Release!


By Paul Smith

Like Cascading Dominoes the intentional departure from believing the Bible is inerrant has plunged the church of the 21st century down the treacherous slippery slope of accommodation and compromise.


This book is available through Discernment Ministries. Check HERE for prices and availability.




Also Available!

Contentiously Contending!

By Anton Bosch

Back in 2007 this blog ran a series of messages by Pastor Anton Bosch on the topic of "contentiously contending." We are pleased to announce that these messages have been published in a booklet.


Herescope readers who loved the series will be happy to know that they can now order this in a printed booklet format - for only $3.00 per copy! Order your copies at the Discernment Products Page (Books) HERE, or by phoning 903-567-6423.

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